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Cue Ball 06-08-2008 02:31 PM



PLEASE HELP !!!! New to the forum. I have a 2004 Mercury G/M. The automatic climate control blows air from the DEF vents, then floor vents, then dash vents, and then back again. This happens with AUTO setting, MAX A/C, NORM A/C, or VENT. What the heck is going on ????









jason sereiko 06-08-2008 03:19 PM



is it an electronic control with buttons or do you have knobs that turn the climate control?

Cue Ball 06-09-2008 09:12 AM



hey there, yes it has push button. Full automatic climate control.

Duffy 06-10-2008 01:06 PM

Try the self-test: press OFF and FLOOR buttons simultaneously and then press the AUTOMATIC button within 2 seocnds. This will display any trouble code(s)
Exit self-test and clear codes: press the DEFROST button.

jason sereiko 06-10-2008 01:27 PM

Cue ball, Follow what duffy said above. Ths is the information I was looking up for you. let me know if this worked.

Cue Ball 06-10-2008 02:55 PM

Thank you gentlemen, I will try this test as soon as my wife gets the car home!!. I will tell you the results soon after. Thank you !!!!!!!!

Cue Ball 06-10-2008 05:33 PM

Thanks for the info. I tried this, the little green bar went into search mode, but pulled no trouble code. The screen went to 888 with all other lights on . However, no change in system. I even tried pulling battery cable off, left it off for some time, then attached to see if I could clear any trouble codes. The result, nothing. Still have same problem. Does this indicate a vacuum problem somewhere????

Duffy 06-10-2008 05:58 PM

Yes, this may point to a vacuum issue somewhere. The book says look at these items: Vacuum hoses kinked/pinched, No vacuum to the a/c control, Airflow door stuck, Vacuum control motors, a/c vacuum reservoir tank, a/c vacuum check valve. In other words, check all vacuum line and motors.

jason sereiko 06-10-2008 09:31 PM



you might have to pull the fuse to the ac or heat controls when you disconnect the battery to reset the code. this should be left off for 15 minutes. the computer has a 15 minute back up powerwhen the fuse is removed. the other way is to have a scan tool reset it if this does not work.

Cue Ball 06-10-2008 11:08 PM

Thanks Jason, I will give it a try! I really want to thank everybody for all your help with this problem.

Cue Ball 06-10-2008 11:13 PM

Thanks to you also Duffy !! You gentlemen don''t know how much I appreciate it.

jason sereiko 06-17-2008 10:34 PM

did anything work or didya give up and bring the car in?

phiftybuick 06-19-2008 05:51 PM

I''m having the same trouble with my ''04.
I crawled around under the dash, and found that the diaphragm that sends the air to the vents is not actuating all the way. I can push the linkage up, and the air comes out the vents, but seems to bleed off and go back to the defroster or the floor. I tried disconnecting the hose (I think it''s yellow) and it went right back to the defroster.
Could it be that there is insufficient vacuum?


jason sereiko 06-20-2008 01:33 PM

can you hook up a hand vac pump to the actuator? If you think you have the ability to do so and you can get at it, hoom it up and see if it opens and closes when air is put in it or if it stays in one position.

phiftybuick 06-21-2008 04:22 PM

Well, I took the ATC unit out of the dash, and got a piece of vacuum tubing to use as a "jumper". All the actuators/doors seem to be working right, but for some reason the control unit won''t send the vacuum to the right places.[img]smileys/smiley6.gif[/img] I took some pics.......will post them later.

-phifty


jason sereiko 06-21-2008 05:23 PM

I think you found the problem. The control unit. It is probably the last thing you want to change because it is the most expensive. Unless anyone has anyother ideas, I think it is the control unit.

phiftybuick 06-21-2008 10:00 PM


OK, I''''ve narrrowed it down to the control unit (of course!)$$$$$$$$
I took the unit apart, and there are 4 little solenoids inside that control the flow of vacuum. There''''s good vacuum to the unit (black hose),
but no matter which buttons are pushed, the vacuum doesn''''t change to any other ports on the back of the unit. I used the jumper hose again, and all the doors work like they''''re supposed to. Soooooo, now comes the hunt for a control unit. Gee, they''''re only $600 from Ford. Ouch.
Thanks to everyone for their input.
(Here are some pics for your entertainment..............

-phifty[img]uploads/phiftybuick/1.jpg[/img][img]uploads/phiftybuick/2.jpg[/img][img]uploads/phiftybuick/3.jpg[/img]

Edited by: phiftybuick


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