got a dumb question, my girlfriend owns a 96 sable. the car is in great shape, but the ac comp. seized and she does not want to replace it. can i get another belt to bypass the ac, or is she stuck. it''s pushrod motor, no dohc.
conan312
08-23-2008, 11:59 PM
As long as the belt, after bypassing the a/c pulley, does not place a flat belt side on a grooved pulley or the opposite (flat pulley vs. grooved belt side), it is possible. Take the serpentine belt off by releasing the pressure on the tensioner pulley. Then take a string and route it like the belt would go(minus the a/c pulley of course) and take a measurement. Go to your local parts store and tell them the length of the belt you need, don''t forget the groove count, and they will sell you a new serpentine at the new length. If it comes up a little short or long, go back and get the next length either longer or shorter. I sold auto parts for five years in a small town as a teenager and got tons of these requests. And with one serpentine belt set-ups it won''t always work. Let me know.
conan312
08-25-2008, 08:31 PM
Did my PM make it back?
jason sereiko
08-26-2008, 11:26 PM
that is a good way to do the bypass.
you can also purchase a delete pulley. it is basically a pulley that goes in place of the compressor. try a search on it. they sell them for mustang v6 and v8 all over the place. they also selll them for your car.
conan312
08-27-2008, 03:46 AM
If the refrigerant thing is still bugging you let me know and I will tell you how you can evacuate the system before removal.Edited by: conan312
caveman
08-27-2008, 09:44 AM
yeah i am a bit concerned about the refrigerant. i have not been able to find out if it''s r12 or r134a. can i evacuate the system safely without towing it to a shop?
conan312
08-27-2008, 04:14 PM
A bit concerned about the refrigerant or the environment? You won''''t be the sole destroyer of the ozone if you evacuate yourself. BUT, most garages have an evactuation machine that removes and stores it safely. That is the PROPER method. But it comes at a price, especially if you require a tow. As for type, look for a sticker on the radiator shroud. I''''m pretty sure it is R-134a. If you opt to do it yourself, there is a Schrader valve (just like the one on your tires) If you remove the valve, put on some gloves first and it will be over in 2 seconds. Pressing it to release whatever pressure is left will take a bit longer. Was the A/C cold before the compressor bit it? Let me know. Edited by: conan312
jason sereiko
08-27-2008, 11:07 PM
spray it in the air and it kills the ozone. do it the correct way.Edited by: jason sereiko
conan312
08-27-2008, 11:48 PM
Jay-Jay, why can''t you just butt out of at least one post. Gotta get that post count up!! Try and concentrate and take a good look at the post again. There are some key words you might have missed like, "safely" and "PROPER" which is even capitalized in the entry just in case. Let me guess, you never removed an A/C compressor in your entire life without a refrigerant evacuator by your side. Stupid question, of course you haven''t. Caveman I apologize, there is one in every forum. Hey, you should of seen his video link that made fun of Middle Easteners, but they just removed it two day ago, plus a dozen other inappropriate ones. So just butt out Jay-Jay, okay? Caveman and I were fine w/o your input. Democratic party, you''re an idiot.
jason sereiko
08-28-2008, 06:45 PM
Dude,are you always like this?, I was just telling the guy there are ac delete pulleys incase he does not know. you can use these and still run the current belt setup. We we can not have clean fun, then i don''t know anymore. Sorry to challenge you spelling fetish you have. It was a joke dude, loosen up. It is not cool to let refrigerent in the ozone.
jason sereiko
08-28-2008, 06:48 PM
I personally like the ac delete pulley. you can use the same belt thenEdited by: jason sereiko
conan312
08-28-2008, 08:50 PM
Re-read your last reply. You''ve got way worse problems than your spelling. How did you get the money? Side bets my ass. Let''s hear from these other guys. You talk to one person on this site on that kind of level and it''s 87 CV. In fact, I''d like to place a small wager. I''d like to see you show me each instance you are speaking of and how much money you won on the bet. 25 bucks says you can''t do it. You know I put up with you dumping in your two cents constantly. Even on my post replies that are over a year old and have nothing to do with you. But when you deliberatly stick me out by saying idiotic things like "spray some in his eye" among other things, you are just pushing my buttons. And you know it. I''ve asked you FOUR times now, and once very nicely. Just leave me alone. By the way, Caveman already discussed an idler pulley installation with me on a PM. So butt out.
jason sereiko
08-28-2008, 10:48 PM
lets just find out how to fix the carEdited by: jason sereiko
conan312
08-29-2008, 01:15 AM
Okay 25 bucks for me. Let''''s go double or nothing for proof of this so called stalking. The way I remember it is YOU going around to all my past replies, about a dozen, and writing to the poster to listen to me cause I was the best on the site. Remember? But I think they all got erased by the man which set you back 10 or 15 posts. Did you cry? I was sad for you. Repling to your wise-ass comments is not stalking. Oh wait, maybe you can prove that claim. NOT. Cause it never happened. Try all you want to make me look bad, the forum posts are there for all to read. You know what I hate the most, is looking up and down all the different forums and seeing your name as the last poster for ALL the topics on the whole site. I guess that''''s how you got your post count up so high in couple months. I''''ve been here for years and I never had a problem with anyone but you. So for the last time (unless you''''d like to try and prove any of your claims).LEAVE ME ALONE. smileys/smiley7.gifEDIT: P.S. Keep the $25.00 and buy a Speak and Spell. I don''t need the cash.Edited by: conan312
jason sereiko
08-29-2008, 08:23 AM
are you running a new belt or acdelete pulleyEdited by: jason sereiko
conan312
08-29-2008, 09:23 AM
Don''t flatter yourself Jay-Jay. Keep me up, no. Make me want to vomit, definately. I drive a truck OTR for a living. Down time is boring but required by law. So I communicate with my family and my kids with my laptop. This used to be one of my favorite sites to visit, but now it''s just filled with Jay-Jay posts. So my posts are down by half at least, because I don''t enjoy the site anymore. It''s too predictable. Take a look and you will see it''s your name everywhere. Not mine. So it''s Jay-Jay''s Auto Zone way to fix a car forum, not Conan''s. And one more thing. My remarks are witty and fitting. Your remarks on the other hand are childish and reaching. I.E.; all the one''s that were erased by the host. Especially the video link where you made fun of Middle Easteners. That was really appropriate. You are the only problem child to join this site in all the years I''ve been a member. If you haven''t ruined the experience totally for me, I''ll do my posts by PM from now on. And I don''t care how angry your next post makes me, I will not reply to it. I think that is the only way to get you to leave me alone. So for the FIFTH and final time, everyone together now, LEAVE ME ALONE!!! P.S. I.E. means "for example". You see, a witty joke because your English is awful. Do you get it?
jason sereiko
08-29-2008, 01:20 PM
the reason my name is posted is that when you answe something correctly there is nothing more to say about it. So the post stays with my name as the last one posted. i really enjoy this site. lets help the people
conan312
09-01-2008, 08:43 PM
Hey Caveman. Sorry things gor off track. Let me rephrase, way off track. But that is taken care of now. Did you find a solution to the bypass?
caveman
09-01-2008, 09:25 PM
it''s all done for now, i put the idle pulley in thursday. stop fighti''n ya''ll. thanks to you both, get along would ya.
jason sereiko
09-02-2008, 12:06 AM
good choice on the pulley.
Thanks caveman. I have forgaven conan, I hope that some day he will see the light and do the same for me.the fighting has stopedon my end. I actually edited all posts that I ever left after him. It seemed like the right thing to do